Raw Meat: A Dangerous Fad [生食喂养的坏处原文版]

lidehua · 2010-11-13 15:48:38

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The issue of feeding raw meat as part (or the entirety) of a domestic dog's diet has proven to be very dangerous. What started out as an unresearched and unsubstantiated diet that qualified veterinarians dismissed as a fad, has now become a real threat for the well-meaning dog lovers who are striving to give their dog's the best. Additionally, dogs who are not on a raw meat diet are still at risk because of parasites and bacteria spread through feces at commonly shared parks.

I am often asked if my motivation for speaking out against raw meat diets is driven by a product that I sell. No. I do not sell any products and I highly recommend homemade or supplemented diets.

Veterinarians across the United States have grave concerns about bones and raw food (BARF) in a dog's diet. History and current statistics show us that both wild and domestic dogs that eat BARF can and do become very ill for a number of reasons.

There has been a significant increase in a variety of illnesses due to a raw meat diet. Some dogs become ill right away and others have severe pancreatic, kidney, heart, and brain illnesses due to a long-term raw meat diet. Most dogs that die from a BARF diet do not show signs of illness until a few days before it kills them. This is true with pancreatitis, and with the raw chicken or turkey necks and backs, which injure the stomach and intestines.

Look Before You Leap

Advocates of a BARF diet make a giant leap from a low-quality kibble to raw meat and bones, skipping over a more common-sense solution: a homemade diet with cooked meat. Any initial results they might see with a raw meat diet are a result of an "absence" of one or more ingredients of the kibble - NOT the "presence" of raw meat. I am very much in favor of home-made diets made with cooked meat and grains, raw veggies and fruits, as long as you have researched your dog's current health status and breeding history if possible.

I considered a raw diet for my dog and decided to challenge the idea by thoroughly investigating everyone's claims (on both sides of the fence). It has evolved into an 11 year independent study. The most compelling evidence are the growing number of dogs I have known to actually die from a raw turkey or chicken back/neck tearing apart their stomach. Intestinal parasites from the raw meat causing a slow death or severe illness. Female dogs on a raw meat diet are more commonly dying while giving birth to a litter.
Throughout my research, I have interviewed and collected data from several top veterinary universities and nutrition experts with degrees in science and biology. Not one of these credited experts could honestly say that a raw meat and/or bone diet for domestic dogs was anywhere near the realm of safe. In addition, I have not found a holistic practitioner or raw meat advocate that can provide evidence that raw meat actually benefits the dog. For example, I'm often told "my dog has a beautiful coat". Raw meat is high in fat - this could also be accomplished with olive oil added to their diet, without the risk of illnesses associated with raw meat. New studies are coming out frequently - all opposed to raw meat and bone diets.

A Diet That Kills in the Wild

Advocates of a raw meat diet feel that it's "bringing your dog back to a more natural style of living". None of the people who are promoting a raw meat diet (that I have encountered) have actually had contact with a wild dog. Dr. Billinghurst admittedly has never done any studies on wolves or wild dogs. I have. I have a wolf sanctuary, and the truth is that wild-born wolves taken into captivity are typically malnourished. Most people *assume* that because wild dogs don't have the opportunity to cook their food, that nature has set up the perfect diet for them. This is simply not true. We know from their carcasses that they die of splintered fowl bones and have very bad dentalia (dental problems).

As for the statement that raw meat is a biologically correct food, Humans have survived healthfully on cooked foods for thousands of years. It is more than safe to say that diseases such as cancer are not caused by cooking your meat.

There are a variety of raw meat menus being offered. You can also find several home-made raw meat diets on websites. It's possible that some of these menus or products are better/safer than others. However, I have been told by experienced veterinarians and nutritionists that they all have in common - they are extremely unbalanced and also put your dog at risk of contracting dangerous bacteria and parasites. This is not my own opinion, but that of the top veterinary universities and true nutritional experts. Anyone to deny there is risk, is fooling themselves!

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What Are The Benefits To Feeding Raw Meat?

There are no studies showing any benefit that raw meat is directly responsible for. Dr. Billinghurst has been asked several times, publicly, to provide an documentation or studies on his "theory" or proof he has any knowledge of wolves and wild dogs, yet fails to produce such evidence. As well, holistic practitioners that recommend raw meat have been unable to provide any type of evidence. Especially one so great that you should risk the health of your dog.

On the other hand, as more people experiment with raw meat diets, veterinarians are seeing frequent cases of pancreatitis, ulcers, malnutrition, injuries due to the raw bones, systemic bacterial poisoning and other conditions. I continue to receive frequent emails from people who once swore by barf, and have now left the discussion group with very sick dogs.

lidehua · 2010-11-13 15:49:31

What Wolves Really Eat
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I myself, have done extensive studies on wolves and wolfdogs over the years. I currently have two wild-born wolves, one wild-born coyote/mix and four high content hybrid wolfdogs. Wild dogs often suffer from liver, kidney, an pancreatic problems from the raw meat in their diet. The bones they eat are covered with cartilages and fur - a wolf skat (feces) looks like a hairy stick. The barf diet recommends raw, meaty chicken bones and it has killed and injured thousands of dogs. It is a WELL known fact amongst vets that dogs who eat raw bones often have dental problems ... it wears the teeth down flat, and they splinter in the jaws and gums (also throat and stomach).

The barf diet that is so-called "evolutionarily correct" does not seem to coincide with the reality of evolution. Pomeranians, corgis, labs, jack russells (for example) and most of the other breeds we have today did not evolve from wolves over thousands of years. They are man-made breeds that have come about from our intervention with genetics. Domestic dogs are similar to wolves but there are many genetic differences --- wolves have a different dental structure (size and angle of teeth) and completely different skull measurements. From the nose to the top of their head, it's flat with no indentation....the area by the ears is much wider than a domestic dog. Wolves mature physically at a completely different rate.

The following quotes from Jennifer Sheldon's "Wild Dogs, The Natural History of Nondomestic Canidae" show that many wolves and wild dogs do die of intestinal parasites which are contracted from eating raw meat. Of course, this is not the primary reason wolves die, but it does happen.

Regarding the red wolf (extinct in the wild, except for small reintroduced populations); "Their decline is thought to be due to a complex of factors including aggressive long-term control programs... and high mortality from susceptibility to parasites." (Parker, 1988; Paradiso and Nowak, 1971, 1972, Carley, 1979; Ferrell, et al., 1980)

"Parasites exact a heavy toll. Of 27 wild-caught wolves tested, all 27 had heartworm (Riley and McBride, 1972). Intestinal parasites, distemper, and mange are also widespread (Riley and McBride, 1972; Paradiso and Nowak, 1972). The high parasite burden carried by all red wolves may indicate that they were occupying marginally suitable habitat. The majority of animals captured during the intensive capture efforts of 1972 were less than 4 years old (Carley, 1979), indicating a very high mortality rate for older individuals. Paradiso and Nowak (1972) noted that there appeared to be very low levels of pup survivorship on the Texas gulf cost in the late 1960s, with most pups dying before 6 months of age. Potential lifespan, if comparable to that of free-ranging coyotes, should have been as much as 12 years."

Regarding the diet of red wolves, "...small animals such as rabbits, raccoons, and nutria, are their primary prey. The consume fish, insects, carrion, and plant material as well (Paradiso and Nowak, 1972; Carley, 1979; Riley and McBride, 1972; Shaw, 1975). Only occasionally do they prey upon ungulates.

Regarding the grey wolf;

"Disease, parasites (intestinal), starvation take their toll as well"

Regarding the maned wolf;

"In free-ranging individuals, parasites (particularly nematodes, which may destroy the kidneys), cystinuria (a potentially fatal inherited metabolic disorder), and human-caused deaths seem to be the most important factors contributing to mortality (Meritt, 1972; Dietz, 1984)." NOTE: the meat aspect of their diet was an important contributing factor to mortality!!

The Wild Dog Diet
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Wild dogs are omnivores, not carnivores. It seems a small distinction, but really is not trivial. This means that they do not live on meat alone, but also feast on vegetation. Cats, by contrast, are true carnivores. Second, the meat they do eat is consumed as soon as it is caught and is obviously not a frozen product. Wild dogs have evolved somewhat of a resistance to the dangerous bacteria and parasitic infections to which they are exposed, which our domestic dogs have not. It is a documented fact through zoos and wolf experts such as Jennifer Sheldon, quoted above, that even wild dogs die and/or become ill from consuming raw meat. Not necessarily every time they eat it, but often enough for it to be of grave concern for your dog. We also know from the wild dogs taken into captivity that they are often found malnourished and unhealthy.

There is well documented evidence in the carcasses of wild dogs, and a well-known fact among veterinary doctors and scientists, that wild dogs DO choke on the bones of fowl or have them splinter in the stomach - even baby backs and necks (Washington State University, located in a rural area verifies this statement). Cooking a bone may make it more likely to splinter, however, raw bones sometimes do splinter in the throat and stomach. A more likely event is that the raw bone will be broken into small, jagged pieces which can tear the lining of the throat and stomach or become lodged in the palate.

Can Raw Meat Cure Illness?
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Some people see what they perceive to be immediate results from the barf diet...a shiny coat, or some type of condition has cleared up. Raw meat has a high fat content that will sometimes give a dog a shiny coat (at least initially). While coat texture can be a sign of good health, it's not a reliable measure of a dog's health.

The truth is that it's NOT the element of *raw* meat that improves a dog's health. They would see the same results with cooked meat. Often times it's simply the absence of one or more ingredient(s) in the kibble they were feeding. When you go from a low quality kibble to barf, you're basically hopping out of the pot and into the fire.

In other words, you could have taken your dog off their current food and put them on another commercial food, or possibly a vet-supervised homemade diet with small amounts of cooked meat, and seen an improvement in the condition - without the dangers of raw meat. Veterinary Universities believe (and I agree) that better nutrition and veterinary care is extending the average dog's lifespan past what is normal, which is why we see chronic cases such as diabetes or cancer. Overbreeding has resulted in an increase of dysplasia, allergies and skin conditions. These are effected by diet, but caused by genetics (poor genealogy from overbreeding and puppy mills).

lidehua · 2010-11-13 15:51:06

Who Advocates This Diet?
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Very few veterinarians recommend raw meat diets. I find it disturbing that the ones I have spoken to who do endorse the idea of feeding raw meat and bones did not have any medically sound reason for doing so, nor could they dispute the data I presented. They just retreat to the position that "dogs in the wild eat it", without acknowledging that wild dogs are malnourished and have shortened life spans from their diet.

One veterinarian who has seen an increase in illnesses due to feeding raw meat reported to me that he treated a 6 month-old puppy who had been on the raw meat diet from a book, "Give Your Dog a Bone". The owners had been diligent in strictly following the book's instructions for their dog's diet. This dog had a severe case of Eosiniphilic Panosteitis (Panos), which is not caused directly by diet, but can be greatly effected by it. The poor puppy was so lame he could barely support his own weight. This is not an isolated case - I have also received email from numerous dog owners whose dogs are having projectile bloody diarrhea and severe bacterial poisoning while on Dr. Billinghurst's raw meat diet. It is just an example of health problems I believe will become increasingly common as dogs on these diets suffer poor health. There are a number of disorders a dog could have where human food of almost any kind (raw meat and dairy, in particular) could seriously harm them, Pancreatits being one example.( See Testimonies for more information.)

An Unsupportable Theory

The raw meat 'theory' has been made popular by a few vets-turned authors such as Ian Billinghurst and Dr. Pitcairn. From there, many other holistic vets who put their trust into these authors have exuberantly promoted the concept. These authors have created a significant paranoia - to the point where people are afraid to cook their food or purchase any commercial food products. Interestingly, most people following this diet only apply the logic to their dog's diet and continue eating cooked foods themselves.

They are contradicting what the great majority of veterinarians and qualified animal nutritionists have determined to be true. I have not met anyone who could provide scientific data to support these claims.
The owners of B.A.R.F. (Bones and Raw Food) websites and Internet discussion lists are (to my knowledge) dog owners and breeders, not veterinarians. They provide questionable testimony and are not qualified to be prescribing diets for your dog, or advising on alternative medicine in any way. A qualified, respected veterinarian would not do this over the internet.

These "followers" of Billinghurst, Pitcairn, Schultz and other authors are so dependant on the books that they casually refer to it as their "bible." The barf lists on the Internet are very much "cult-like." You will be warned if you even mention my website, and banned if you agree with it. They will not tolerate ANY opinion other than their own and are extremely hostile toward anything that challenges their belief system. Barfers have retaliated to my website/article by attempting to discredit me with accusations of being affiliated to a commercial dog company. So for the record, I do not sell dog commercial dog food. I am not selling anything.
There are a few Internet discussion groups against the feeding of B.A.R.F - however, they have had to go "underground" because the members of B.A.R.F lists will join and make it impossible to have a discussion without arguments and attack. Barfers have even gone as far as to start discussion lists posing as "anti-barf" groups, only to lure in people who are looking for more information, and to attack those who speak out against B.A.R.F. It's absurd!

Sadly, many of the discussions on the barf message boards are about how ill the dogs are from raw meat/bones. People who are new to feeding B.A.R.F. are told that symptoms such as bloody diarrhea, choking on raw bones, and other health problems are perfectly normal, as their dogs are "purging" toxins. I receive numerous emails from people who have left these lists due to their dogs becoming very ill or actually dying from the barf or other raw meat diets.

Profiteering Veiled as Advocacy

The makers of raw meat diets sold in pet stores that I have met are not vets, and do not have a science/microbiology background nor experience in the practice of veterinary medicine. They have been salesman, groomers, or simply dog owners. Their information seems to be wholly derived from those books written concerning the raw meat diets without examining the subject in a critical way. And, there are others that act as nutrition consultants... bearing in mind that "Nutrition Specialist" is a meaningless title with no certification required. I don't say this to insult anyone, but it is something that consumers should be aware of.
Unfortunately, the raw meat diet manufacturers and authors of books providing home-made diet recipes base their opinions on the concept of what they assume is the "wild dog diet". They seem to disregard the hard scientifically proven facts and statistics about the typical health of a wild dog due to it's diet, and injury and deaths to both wild and domestic dogs directly related to consumption of raw meat and bones.

Furthermore, many authors of raw meat diets or makers of such a diet present ludicrous unsupportable claims as fact, such as these:

(1) raw chicken and turkey bones will not splinter (in fact, they are the most common bone to kill a dog).

(2) pasteurized products contribute to arthritis.

(3) mixing proteins causes gas in carnivores (dogs are omnivores, as are humans) as well as an acid condition that may lead to disease.

(4) grapefruit seed extract and/or fruit sugars will kill any dangerous bacteria in raw meat.

(5) beta carotene and vitamin A prevent cancer. None of these claims has been demonstrated to be true, nor are they widely accepted as even possibly true.

I was appalled when approached by a few of the raw meat manufacturers/distributors with the enticement that "you can become a millionaire selling this stuff". This is not to say that each and every person advocating this fad has money as their prime motivation, but it certainly seems rule, not the exception. There is nothing inherently wrong with making a profit, but it is wrong to make a profit selling dangerous products and ideas at the expense of our animal friends to unsuspecting, well-meaning dog-lovers.

lidehua · 2010-11-13 15:51:24

Raw Meat Myths
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) a5 u4 q: `* L* l( ]* D/ cFalse: Chicken and turkey bones are soft and wholly digestible. Especially baby back and necks.

Truth: History and present records show that this is completely untrue. Thousands of dogs have died or been severely injured, over the years, from consuming raw fowl bones. Farm dogs and Coyotes are consistently treated for bone fragments and splintering in their stomachs or throats after having killed live chickens, hens and turkeys - yes, even baby fowl. Another way small fowl bones have painfully harmed dogs is they become jammed or lodged between teeth or through the palate. I receive email frequently from ex-barfers whose dogs have been harmed or killed from being fed raw chicken and turkey bones. Even Dr. Billinghurst, in his rebuttal to my website, admits there is risk. In his latest book he has a disclaimer that raw bones may be hazardous. Duh! Too bad he didn't mention it in his book when he recommended that you feed your dog raw bones!

False: Bones won't splinter on a full stomach.

Completely untrue! Many times jagged chunks of bone do their damage in the throat. Dogs have died from choking on bones. And, regarding the stomach, bones do not pass as quickly as the food. Digested food does not protect the lining of the stomach from sharp objects. Wolves eat fur, cartilage and muscle meat along with the bones which helps prevent injury from fragments. I'm not recommending you feed your dog bones in this manner, but it should be noted that your dog doesn't have this advantage on the barf diet. Click here to read testimonies about dogs harmed by raw bones".

False: Cooking the meat destroys the quality of enzymes and predigests the meat.

Truth: The benefit of meat for dogs is protein not enzyme. Secondly, cooking the meat makes it much more digestible as raw meat has indigestible collagen proteins. In the wild, mother dogs eat the meat from a kill and regurgitate for their pups - serving predigested meat. In addition, raw meat is very high in fat. Thousands of dogs die every year from Pancreatitis, and some are disabled by this disorder after being fed a raw meat diet for a short time. Not only is raw meat high in fat, but the pancreas is made to produce enzymes.

Supplementing with too many live enzymes can cause the pancreas to shut down. If your dog has Pancreatitis and you aren't aware of it – a high fat diet of raw meat could kill them.

False: Freezing kills all parasites and bacteria.

Truth: Freezing kills some but not all parasites and does not kill most bacteria. The most dangerous parasite in raw meat is toxoplasmosis. It can kill your dog. I know of two recent cases where dogs died from this parasite after eating raw meat. Dr. Michael Harrington, a Veterinary Neurologist reported that he treated a dog with thousands of parasites from a raw meat diet, which turned to worms in his brain. An MRI showed the dog's brain looked like Swiss cheese. The parasites are usually much more dangerous than the bacteria. Cats and people are also susceptible to this parasite. Pregnant women are told not to change kitty litter when pregnant because toxoplasmosis can effect the baby. Cats who carry toxoplasmosis from eating birds and rodents, while pregnant, often birth deformed kittens.

False: Grapefruit seed extract kills all dangerous bacteria.

Truth: This is completely un-scientific and unproven. Furthermore, some bacteria thrive in the acid environment of the stomach. Grapefruit Seed extract is irritating to the dog's stomach lining and the taste is bitter.

False: Adding calcium through bone meal or bones balances the phosphorous/calcium ratio.

Truth: The phosphorous/calcium ratio in a dog's diet is one of the most critical for optimum health. It's difficult to provide an accurate balance in home-made diets. It's an uneducated, "amateur" idea to add bone meal because it contains both phosphorous and calcium, which negates any balance. There is also the threat of Mad Cow Disease in some locations. You would be better off giving them a Tums tablet or a serving of Broccoli. A few of the disorders caused by feeding raw meat are; Nutritional Secondary Hyperparahtyroidism (parathy gland) and kidney failure due to the inability of the kidney to remove high amounts of phosphorous from the body. When kidneys fail due to over abundance of phosphorous, the body compensates by robbing jaw bone for calcium to balance these circulating blood levels. This is also known as Rubber Jaw. There are also a number of osteopathic disorders.

False: Acidophilus and FructoOligoSaccharides will also kill dangerous bacteria.

Truth: Sound impressive? Acidophilus is a "friendly" bacteria that aids in digestion. It is not a bactericide. Fructo = fruit, oligo = few or decreased, saccharides = sugar. These sugars are added to provide a food source for the acidophilus.

False: Pasteurization leads to arthritis. The makers of raw meat diets often suggest a meal plan that contains whole, raw dairy.

Truth: Dogs in the wild (which is the basis of the raw meat argument) do not eat dairy. They eat eggs – eggs are meat not dairy. Dogs have a very low tolerance for dairy because of the lactose. They do not produce lactase (which digests the lactose) after being weaned from their mother’s milk.

False: Dogs drink the milk from lactating goats that have been killed.

Truth: Not many goats live in regions where large wild wolves do - unless the wolf is stealing from a farmer. The number of incidents where a wild wolf would have killed a female, lactating goat, are so few that this is not a standard ingredient of the wild dog's diet - nor should it be the domestic dog's.

False: Dogs are carnivores

Truth: Dogs are omnivores. They eat both vegetation and meat, of which vegetation is the higher percentage. Domestic dogs do not have the same skull shape or number of teeth that wolves do. You could say they are carnivorous. Cats are true carnivores, however, that doesn't mean that raw meat is safe for them either. There are very obvious differences between cougars, lions, tigers and your housecat.

lidehua · 2010-11-13 15:53:32

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I am very much against the raw food diets. Many dogs can do well on a raw food diet. However, they have the potential to be life threatening. Any food that can potentially kill even one animal is not worth the risk. Bones, even raw and ground ones can perforate the GI tract. This can lead to peritonitis, severe infections, require emergency surgery, and many dogs die each year from this. As for dental health, there are no scientific studies supporting raw food over commercial or cooked foods to maintain dental health. Veterinary dentists recommend daily brushing and periodic cleaning for optimal dental health. Bones can, and do fracture teeth leading the pain and potential tooth root infections requiring root canals and or extractions. There is also a very good study done by my colleagues (that will be published in the next year) who analyzed several different recipe's for raw food diets. ALL of them had nutritional deficiencies as well as some serious bacterial contamination. Have you had a veterinary nutritionist evaluate your recipe? These diets ARE contaminated with bacteria. This may not be harmful to a healthy dog......however, dogs don't come with a label saying which ones will be fine and which ones will get sick. Even if dogs do not get sick from the bacteria (such as Salmonella or pathogenic E. Coli- the Jack -in the -Box killer bacteria) they can become "chronic shedders". This means they are carriers of the bacteria which is shed in their stool, and becomes a public health risk to people who might be exposed. This can be especially serious if your dog is ever around any children, elderly immunosuppressed people (those on chemotherapy, HIV etc).

Sincerely,
J Churchill

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From Gail, Willow Run Siberians, Leavenworth, WA

Hi Katie,
I got the pathology report yesterday afternoon from the vet. Kenai died as the result of puncture wounds. The pyloric valve (betw stomach and intes.) was basically ripped apart, like a "foreign body" had been stuck there. Other things looked highly irregular too--pancreas, etc. it was from the ONE chicken back I gave him. ONE. So I will forever live with the sad thought that I KILLED MY OWN DOG. Put a "tic" mark in the column for "one more dog killed with raw chicken". I think the vet has to share some of the responsibility.

I have learned a lot from this experience...And the Billinghurst book is as good as going into the garbage---If I pass it on to anyone, it will be with a long sad story attached. Unfortunately none of this will bring Kenai, who should still have so much of his life left, back to me. And I've cried buckets over it, as you might guess.
NOTE: This was the first raw bone, but Kenai had been eaten raw meat. I find that many of the dogs eating raw meat end up with pancreas problems early on. In addition, The president of the husky club she belongs to just lost a 2 yr old female dog while giving birth to 8 pups. She died because of ulcers...the toxins of the puppies absorbed through them or something like that. She had been on barf her entire life. Autopsy showed she also had an enlarged pancreas.

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From Martha Kuhn,

Katie, I just found your website. I wish with all my heart I had found it five months ago. Maybe, just maybe, if I had, the most wonderful little dog I've ever been privileged to live with would still be alive, instead of having died, horribly, thanks to my stupid gullibility. She died after five meals--five--on the Kymythy Schultze "Ultimate" diet. Well, it certainly was the ultimate--as in last--diet for Linden. I've been living a nightmare ever since. If there is anything I can do to help you warn people about the danger of these crazy diets, please let me know.

A message from Martha to a person considering the barf diet,

I don't know what I can add to what I said in the e-mail that was forwarded to you. I killed my little princess, the love of my life, the culmination of a nine-year breeding program, by feeding her raw meat complete with bones. I read Give Your Dog a Bone and thought it was very poorly written and not at all convincing. However, I kept hearing from people on the net about how wonderful the raw diet was, and so when I heard that Kymythy Schultz was going to be giving a seminar fairly close by, I went. I read her book, thought about it some more, and decided to try it. I thought that if it didn't work out, I could always switch her back to kibbles. No one ever warned me that I might not get a second chance. I am here to warn you. You might not get a second chance. I don't know if I did something wrong with the diet, or if my sweet girl had some hidden (very well hidden) health problem that made her not a candidate for this diet---but if so, that's really odd because the zealots for the diet claim it cures everything, especially gastro-intestinal problems. Well, it destroyed the last six feet of her intestines to the point where blood was leaking out of them and pooling in her abdomen. She died of blood loss, despite a 1 AM trip to the vet emergency hospital. And this was after only five days on the diet. Her mother, who ate the same things she did, also got bad diarrhea, but she recovered. Thank God. I think I would have driven in front of a semi for real (instead of just thinking about it) if I had managed to kill them both.

If you think your dog's epilepsy is caused or exacerbated by something in what you're feeding, why not try a better quality kibble, like Innova, or Wellness, or maybe even home cooking--but I do mean COOKING, cook the meat and NO BONES. Or, if you are determined to risk your dog's life in this way, find someone close to you who has been doing it a long time who you trust and check with them every step of the way. At the slightest sign that something is wrong, back off. I can't tell you how I've tortured myself with "what if's"--don't put yourself into a situation where you can do this too. It's no fun. There are other holistic therapies you could try, too. I wish, looking back on it, that I had tried alternative therapies with my old girl who started seizuring. Maybe homeopathy has an answer for you. Please do more research, and as I say, if you must try this horribly dangerous diet, be extremely careful.
Good luck.
--Martha K.

lidehua · 2010-11-13 15:53:56

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Dear Katie,
I joined the k9health discussion list a little while ago. I did so because I have become increasingly concerned about the safety of routine vaccinations for my dogs, and in my travels on the web in search of more information about vaccinations I came across this list. I thought I had joined a discussion group of people who were serious-minded and interested in furthering the cause of canine health, but it seemed to me that I had instead fallen amongst a group of small-minded, mean-spirited zealots, a group which bore more than a passing resemblance to a cult. I do not believe that BARF is a good or a safe diet. I have given my dogs bones on occasion, but besides my misgivings about the very real dangers of raw meat I have not found that raw bones are universally good for my dogs. I have seen pancreatitis and colitis appear like clockwork in one dog whenever he ate bones; needless to say, I stopped giving him marrow bones for this reason.

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Hi there, my name is [removed for privacy] and I live in Vancouver British Columbia. I have just returned home from a visit at the local pet holistic practitioner. Approximately 1 month ago my wife and I brought our 18 month old boxer (Taylor) to see this woman. We were advised that Taylor should be on a "raw meat" diet as her immune system was low. I trusted the advice and we commenced the new diet immediately. One month later Taylor became violently ill with hives all over, diarrhea and vomiting. She didn't eat for two days. This of course scared us both to death. We set up another appointment with the "witch doctor" and again were told to just stay on the raw meat. At no time were we informed WHY Taylor became so sick. At best it was suggested that she may have rolled in some fertilizer? I questioned that and then was advised to start giving her raw chicken wings as a source of calcium? Again I questioned that as I have always thought that at no time should a dog be given bones that are known to splinter. The answer I received was " a raw chicken wing will not splinter and is very safe, as well as an extremely high source of calcium". In any case when I returned from our last visit I searched the internet and cam across your article about raw meat. Well, to put it simply there will be no more raw meat for our baby. I feel disappointed that I did not investigate further. I'm sure the controversy over raw versus fresh will continue however until I see some noted facts from a qualified person, my dog will eat cooked meat, fruit, vegetables, grains and lots of water.

lidehua · 2010-11-13 15:55:40

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What about the thousands of dogs who live healthfully on barf?

This is clearly a myth. If you visit ANY barf or raw meat list on the internet, you will find more posts about the dogs on barf being ill, than not. They just choose to blame their dog's projectile, bloody diarrhea on anything but the raw meat they are eating. The results they initially see are almost always mixed with side effects *not* mentioned.

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How do you transition a dog from barf to a home-made or kibble diet?

The advice I know veterinarians to give is to take the dog off the raw meat immediately. It's not an addictive substance that you will have withdrawal from.....it's like deciding you're not going to drink antifreeze any longer. The sooner you stop - immediately - the better. The less introduction of bacteria, the better! My personal experience of rehabbing many dogs off the barf diet is to 1) get a stool sample and see if medication is needed. I don't like antibiotics, but I like parasites and bacteria in my dogs intestines a lot less! 2) switch instantly to cooked beef or lamb (not chicken) and combine with white rice for the first 3 days - nothing else other than a lot of water. This is just to settle the stomach. Then substitute the beef with cooked eggs and add in a high quality kibble. Depending on the dog's age, breed, and health status I combine fresh vegetables and fruits.

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How do I know if the symptoms my dog has are from raw meat or the kibble?

There is a ridiculous rumor spread throughout the Internet that when your dog gets sick from raw meat, it's because they are "purging" the toxins of commercial food. This is completely illogical and unfounded. What toxins? And, if there were toxins present they wouldn't manifest in projectile, bloody diarrhea, pancreatitis, kidney failure, intestinal parasitic infection or any of the other illnesses eating raw meat causes dogs.

According to the vets I surveyed, hundreds of people have had fecals done, only to find bacteria and parasites in their dog's stool. This is clearly not a case of purging toxins. And, what about the high percentage of dogs that die (or nearly die) from pancreatitis due to the high fat content in raw meat? That would indicate they were better off with kibble or a carefully formulated home-cooked meal. For the record - cancer and other terminal or chronic conditions are not cured by the presence of raw meat and bacteria found in raw meat. Clearly, no food kills a cancerous cell. Food can assist in our overall health and prevention of disease - that, we know for sure.

The most compelling evidence is not in a professional study, but history and present records of thousands of dogs dying or being injured from raw meat and bones. And, it's not only the "raw" factor, but the fact that it's completely imbalanced. This is also why no one is doing studies on why humans shouldn't eat raw meat - we're past the point of questioning it. When I interviewed vets and veterinary universities they said there was no need for a study because it is a basic biological fact that raw meat has parasites and bacteria. It is also a well known fact in the veterinary industry that before commercial kibble dogs were more often fed raw meaty bones or raw cutoffs of meat, and there were many deaths and a shortened lifespan because of it. There is a reason why everyone switched to kibble when it was available. I'm not advocating commercial kibble - I just don't believe that billions of people over the years ALL switched to kibble because they were lazy or had little regard for their dog's health. Wild dogs, including coyotes and wolves in rural areas are known to have severe dental problems, as well as kidney, liver and pancreatic problems from their diet. Wild dogs are typically malnourished.

lidehua · 2010-11-13 15:56:09

Valid Research on Raw Meat
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I urge you to step back and take a critical look at the facts before changing your animal's diet; investigate everything you read, including what I have written. Anyone can write a book or an article. Ask the retailer to show you documented proof of their claims on the alleged health benefits of raw meat. Or call a veterinary university and let them provide you with scientific facts and case studies.

Barfers accuse commercial dog food companies of selling inappropriate products for our dogs just to make a buck. Holistic products on the market are far more expensive and most are not even tested for use on/in animals. Dr. Billinghurst is charging a ridiculous amount of money for his seminar and books. One particular raw meat product found in pet stores is actually using byproducts intended for large cats (cougars or lions) at the zoo. I would mention their name, but they threatened to sue me if I exposed them. There is no conspiracy. There are good food manufacturers and there are ones who are out for money. I have found far more corrupt people in the B.A.R.F business than in commercial kibble.

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BARF Diet Information

Dr. Lisa Newman Dr. Lisa Newman is a Doctor of Naturopathy who also holds a Ph.D. in holistic nutrition. She is the president of the International Natural Pet Care Association and author of eight books on natural pet care.

Mike Richards, DVM Dr. Mike addresses frequently asked questions about the raw meat diet, and explains the dangerous and misconceptions of feeding raw meat and bones.

William D. Cusick Author of "The Animal Advocate" Website. William provides a fascinating information on the ancestry of our dogs and wolves, as well as facts about the dangers of a raw meat/bone diet.

Dr. Julie Churchill College of Veterinarian Medicine, University of Minnesota

JAVMA Study Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association

ProVet Healthcare Information An article on all meat diets. We know an awful lot about the nutritional requirements of cats and dogs, yet every year veterinarians see pets that have got broken legs and even fractured spines, simply because they have been fed on an exclusively meat ration

Dr. Bellfield's article An online article regarding the dangers of feeding raw meat and bones.

Natural Life Magazine Pet Care Experts Caution Against Raw Food Diet For Dogs

The Pet Center Wolves and Bones

Steve Crane The article is "Fallacy of comparing domestic dogs to wild wolves." Superbly written and provides scientific information you need to know while researching canine nutrition.

Linda Arndt A nutritional consultant provides sound advice on raw meat and bone diets.

PetDiets.com A premier site for Pet nutrition

Greyhounds Greyhounds and Raw Meat Nutrition

Pet Food Charts & Manufacturing Info

PFMA Pet Food Manufacturer's Assoc. United Kingdom.

European Pet Food The European Pet Food Industry

Univ. Of Illinois Study Raw vs. Rendered by products Concerning bioavailability

WSU Vet Med Anatomy for the Pet Owner, Washington State

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Books on Pet Nutrition

Ann Martin Ann is a highly acclaimed researcher who pioneered the effort of exposing the commercial kibble industry with her first book, 'Food Pets Die For'. Her second book, 'Protect Your Pet...More Shocking Facts!' includes a chapter on the dangers of the B.A.R.F and other raw meat/bones diets. She has done an impressive investigation with honest, clear and non-biased her writing!
Dr. Donald R. Strombeck Author of "Home Prepared Dog & Cat Diets, A Healthful Alternative". Donald Strombeck, DVM, PhD provides over 200 home-made recipes and talks about why he is strongly against raw meat and bone diets.

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I have obtained facts and statistics from the following sources:

Robert Vansaun, DVM, PhD*
Professor, Oregon State University
Magruder Hall 105
College of Veterinary Medicine
Corvallis OR 97331
541-737-7667 (phone)
541-737-0502 (fax)
*other titles;
President of the American Academy of Veterinary Nutrition
Diplomat, ACT (American college of Theriogenolists)
Diplomat, American College of Veterinary Nutrition

Jim Lincoln, DVM
Director of Veterinary Teaching Hospital
Washington State University
Veterinary Clinical Sciences
PO Box 646610

Pullman, Washington 99164-6610
509-335-0711

Julie Churchill, DVM

Clinical Specialist, Nutrition
College of Veterinarian Medicine
University of Minnesota
1365 Gortner Ave
St. Paul Minn 55108
612-625-9758
612-624-0751

Jennifer W. Sheldon
Wild Dogs, The Natural History of the Nondomestic Canidae
Academic Press, Inc., 1992

Ann Martin
Food Pets Die For
Protect Your Pet...More Shocking Facts
Email; anmartin1@rogers.com

NewSage Press, Inc.

University of California, Davis Veterinary School of Medicine - 530-752-1011

San Francisco Zoo - 415-753-7080

Woodland Park Zoo (Seattle, WA) - 206-684-4800

Washington State Veterinary Association - 425-454-8381

lidehua · 2010-11-13 15:59:34

他们后面也没有翻译了！下面是我用谷歌翻译的：

在喂养的一部分，国内狗的饮食（或全部）原料肉的问题已被证明是非常危险的。什么开始了作为一个unresearched和毫无根据的饮食习惯，作为一个合格的兽医时尚解雇，现在已经成为了好心的爱狗谁是努力向他们的狗是最好的真正的威胁。此外，狗谁是生肉饮食上仍处于不因寄生虫粪便传播，并通过在共享公园常见细菌的风险。

常有人问我，如果我的发言对生肉饮食出动机是由一种产品，我卖的驱动。不，我不卖任何产品，我强烈建议国产或补充营养。

美国各地的兽医对骨骼和生食在狗的饮食（呕吐）严重关切。历史和目前的统计数字告诉我们，野生和家养的狗是吃吐能够而且确实成为一个病重的原因。

有曾经在一家疾病由于各种生肉饮食显着增加。有些狗生病马上和其他人有严重的胰腺，肾，心，脑疾病，由于长期生肉饮食。大多数的狗，从BARF饮食死不显示疾病症状，直到前几天它杀死他们。这是胰腺炎真实，并与生鸡肉或火鸡脖子和背部，这损害胃和肠。

三思而后行

BARF饮食的倡导者，以使原料肉和骨头从低质量的粗磨巨大的飞跃，在一个更常识性的解决方案，跳绳：一个自制的熟肉制品的饮食。任何初始结果，他们可能会看到一个生肉饮食是一种“缺席”的一个或多个成分的粗磨的结果 - 而不是“存在”的生肉。我非常的熟肉制品和谷物，蔬菜和水果做成的原料自制饮食的青睐，只要你有你的狗研究的目前的健康状况和繁殖的历史如果可能的话。

我考虑了我的狗生的饮食，并决定彻底调查挑战每个人的债权（对围栏两侧）的思想。它已演变成一个11年的独立研究。最有说服力的证据都是我已经知道其实死于生火鸡或鸡背撕开他们的胃/脖子狗越来越多。从原始造成死亡或严重缓慢肠道寄生虫病肉。饮食上的生肉母狗较为普遍死亡时生下一个垃圾箱。
在我的研究，我已经采访并收集了从几家顶级大学和兽医学和生物学度在营养专家的数据。不是这些专家一记可以诚实地说，一生肉和/或国内的狗骨附近的任何地方饮食安全的境界了。此外，我还没有找到一个全面的医生或生肉主张提供证据，证明可以实际利益生肉的狗。例如，我经常说：“我的狗有一个美丽的外衣”。原料肉的脂肪含量高的 - 这也可以用橄榄油将完成自己的饮食如果没有与生肉相关疾病的风险。最新的研究经常出来 - 所有反对生肉和骨饮食。

的饮食，野生杀死

生肉饮食的倡导者认为，它是“把你的狗回到更自然的生活风格”。人谁是促进生肉饮食（我遇到的）都没有竟然出现了与野生狗接触。诚然博士Billinghurst从来没有做过的狼或野狗进行研究。我有。我有一个狼保护区，而真理是被掳掠采取野生出生的狼通常营养不良。大多数人*假设*，因为野狗没有机会煮食物，自然界已经为他们设立完善的饮食。这完全是不正确的。我们知道，从他们的尸体，他们死于分裂鸡骨头，有非常糟糕dentalia（牙齿问题）。

至于生肉的陈述正确的食物是一种生物，人类生存healthfully对几千年来煮熟食物。它比肯定地说，癌症等疾病不是由你的肉做饭引起更多。

有一生肉被提供各种菜单。您也可以在网站上找到一些自制生肉饮食。这可能是因为这些菜单或部分产品更好/比别人更安全。不过，我一直由经验丰富的兽医和营养师，他们的共同点告诉 - 它们是非常不平衡，更会染上危险细菌和寄生虫的风险你的狗。这不是我个人的意见，而是由顶部兽医大学和真正的营养专家。任何人否认有风险，是自欺欺人！

lidehua · 2010-11-13 16:01:08

没有证明的好处

有什么好处取食生肉吗？

有没有研究显示出任何好处生肉直接负责。博士Billinghurst已经问过几次，公开，提供一个文件或在他的“理论”的研究或证明他有任何的狼和野狗的知识，但没有出示这些证据。同时，该医生建议生肉整体一直未能提供任何证据类型。尤应如此之大，你的风险您的狗的健康。

另一方面，随着越来越多的人使用生肉饮食实验，兽医看到案件频发的胰腺炎，溃疡，营养不良，外伤由于加工的骨头，全身细菌性食物中毒和其他条件。我继续收到的人谁曾经发誓呕吐，而今已病狗留下了非常频繁的电子邮件讨论小组。

狼真的吃什么

我自己，都做对狼和多年来wolfdogs广泛的研究。我现在有两个野生出生的狼，一只野生出生的小狼/组合和四个高含量混合wolfdogs。野狗经常遭到肝，肾，从他们的饮食生肉一胰腺癌的问题。他们吃的骨头都覆盖着软骨和皮毛 - 狼斯卡特（粪便）看起来像一个毛茸茸的棍子。 BARF饮食建议的原料，肉的鸡骨头，它已死亡，数千人受伤的狗。这是一个精心兽医，狗之间谁吃未加工的骨头常常有牙科问题众所周知的事实...它的牙齿磨损，平，和他们在下巴和牙龈（也喉咙和胃）分裂出来的。

在吐饮食是所谓的“进化正确”似乎并不配合进化的现实。波美拉尼亚，柯基，实验室，杰克罗素（例如）以及我们今天没有其他品种最进化，从几千年的狼。它们是人为的有来自我们与遗传学干预有关品种。家犬类似狼但也有许多遗传差异---狼有不同的牙齿结构（大小和牙齿的角度）和完全不同的头骨测量。从对他们的头顶，鼻子，它的平坦，无压痕....由耳朵面积远远大于国内的狗更广泛。狼成熟的身体在一个完全不同的速度。

从珍妮弗Sheldon的“野生犬，犬科的Nondomestic自然史”表明，许多狼和野狗死于这是从吃生肉感染肠道寄生虫做好以下报价。当然，这并不是主要的原因狼死了，但它确实发生。

关于红色狼（在野外已经灭绝除小重新人群），“他们的下降被认为是由于包括侵略性长期控制方案...和高死亡率的因素复杂寄生虫的易感性。” （帕克，1988年;天堂和诺瓦克，1971年，1972年，卡利，1979年;。费雷尔等人，1980年）

。“寄生虫付出了沉重的代价的27野外捕捉狼测试，所有27个心丝虫（莱利和McBride，1972）肠道寄生虫，犬瘟热，和疥癣也普遍（莱利和McBride，1972;天堂和诺瓦克，1972）。。寄生虫高负担由所有红色狼可能表明，他们占领勉强适宜栖息地。作者在1972年的密集努力捕捉捕获动物大部分是不到4岁（卡利，1979年），这表明一个非常高的死亡率老年人的个人。天堂和诺瓦克（1972）指出，似乎是小狗在上世纪60年代末得克萨斯海湾成本非常低的水平上存活最小狗前6个月的年龄死亡。潜在寿命，如果认为媲美自由放养的狼，应该已经高达12年。“

关于红色狼“...如兔子，浣熊，和海狸鼠小动物的饮食，是他们的主要猎物的消耗，以及（天堂和诺瓦克，1972年鱼类，昆虫，腐肉和植物材料。卡利，1979 ;莱利和McBride，1972;。邵氏，1975），他们只是偶尔捕食有蹄类动物。

至于灰狼;

“疾病，寄生虫（肠），饥饿造成死亡，以及”

关于鬃狼;

“在自由放养的个人，寄生虫（特别是线虫，这可能会破坏肾脏），cystinuria（一个潜在的致命的遗传性代谢障碍），和人类造成的死亡似乎是最重要的因素导致的死亡率（梅里特，1972年;迪茨，1984）。“注意：他们的饮食肉类方面是一个重要因素的死亡率！

lidehua · 2010-11-13 16:02:39

野狗饮食

野生狗是杂食动物，而不是食肉动物。这似乎是一个小的区别，但实际上并不简单。这意味着，他们不是生活在肉类孤单，但也对植被的盛宴。猫，相反，是真正的食肉动物。其次，他们吃的肉被消耗，尽快被抓住，显然不是一个冷冻产品。野狗已经发展到一定程度，他们都露出了抵抗细菌和寄生虫感染的危险，而我们国内的狗都没有。它是一种通过动物园和狼专家，如珍谢尔登上面引用，文件记载的事实，即使死野狗和/或成为从消费生肉生病。不一定每次他们吃了起来，但往往足以使它成为你的狗严重关切。我们也知道，从被掳他们采取经常发现营养不良和不健康的野狗。

有是有据可查的野生狗的尸体证据，并在各兽医医生和科学家，狗，野生飞鸟窒息的骨头或让他们在胃中分裂众所周知的事实 - 甚至婴儿背部和颈部（华盛顿州大学，在农村地区位于证实此声明）。烹饪骨头可能使人们有可能分裂，但是，未加工的骨头有时在喉咙和胃分裂。一个更有可能的事件之一，是将原始骨成小，铁血件可撕喉衬和胃或成为腭提出打破。

生肉能治病？

当一个号在以前的状况的改善是生肉喂食后看到了一只狗，它更可能是由于一些在他们吃的食物之前，违规代理的情况下。

有些人看到他们认为必须从BARF饮食...一个闪亮的外衣，或某些类型的即时状况已清理的结果。原料肉的脂肪含量高的狗有时会给出一个闪亮的外衣（至少在初期）。而被毛的质地可以是一个良好的健康的标志，它不是一个狗的健康可靠的措施。

事实是，它不是原始的* *肉，改善了狗的健康元素。他们会看到熟肉相同的结果。很多时候，它只是一个或更多的成分在粗磨他们喂养（s）的情况下。当你从低质量的粗磨去吐，你基本上跳了锅，在火里。

换句话说，你可以采取了他们目前的食品放在你的狗和其它商业的食物，也可能是用少量的熟肉制品审查监督的自制饮食他们，看到了在条件的改善 - 无原料的危险肉。兽医大学相信（我同意）的更好的营养和医疗护理是延长平均狗的寿命过去什么是正常的，这就是为什么我们看到诸如糖尿病或癌症等慢性病的案件。 Overbreeding导致的发育不良，过敏和皮肤状况的增加。这些都是影响了饮食，而是通过遗传学（从overbreeding和小狗造纸厂贫困族谱）引起的。

lidehua · 2010-11-13 16:03:24

谁主张这种饮食？

很少有兽医推荐生肉饮食。我觉得不安的是，我谈过的那些谁也赞同喂食生肉和骨头没有任何充分的理由这样做医生的想法，也无法争议的数据我提出。他们只是撤退的立场，“在野生狗吃了”，不承认野狗营养不良，并从他们的饮食缩短寿命。

谁曾见过一名兽医在疾病增加，因为喂生肉向我报告说，他处理了6个月大的小狗谁已对生肉饮食从一本书，“给你的狗骨”。勤奋的业主已经在严格按照他们的狗的饮食书的指示。这狗有一种Eosiniphilic Panosteitis（帕诺斯），这是由饮食没有造成直接的严重情况，但它能够大幅度影响。可怜的小狗真差劲，他几乎无法养活自己的重量。这不是一个孤立的事件 - 我也收到很多狗主人的狗，而在有博士Billinghurst的生肉饮食弹丸带血腹泻和严重的细菌性中毒的电子邮件。这只是一个例子，我的健康问题，相信会成为越来越普遍的狗患对这些饮食健康状况不佳。有一些狗的疾病数量几乎可以在任何种类的（生肉类和奶制品，特别是）人类的食物可能会严重伤害他们，胰腺炎便是一个例子。（更多信息见见证。）

一个不能忍受理论

生肉'理论'已流行了数兽医出身，如伊恩Billinghurst博士和皮特凯恩作者。从那里，许多其他谁把这些作者的信任全面推进兽医有旺盛的概念。这些作者们造成了很大的偏执狂 - 到这种地步的人都不敢煮食物或购买任何商业食品。有趣的是，大多数人以下这种饮食只适用于对他们的狗的饮食逻辑和继续进食煮熟的食物本身。

他们是什么样的矛盾兽医和动物营养学家合格绝大多数已确定是真实的。我没见过任何人谁能够提供科学数据来支持这些说法。
业主的B.A.R.F. （骨头和生食）网站和互联网讨论名单（据我所知）业主和饲养的狗，而不是兽医。他们提供可疑的见证，没有资格为您的狗的饮食处方，或以任何方式替代医学建议。一个合格的，受人尊敬的兽医不会做了上网本。

这些“信徒”的Billinghurst，皮特凯恩，舒尔茨和其他作者的书上是如此，他们通常所说的他们要依赖它“圣经”。互联网上的呕吐名单非常“邪教一样。”你会被警告说，如果连自己都提到我的网站，并禁止如果你用它同意。他们不会容忍任何比自己的意见，是非常对其他任何挑战他们的信仰体系敌意。 Barfers有报复到我的网站/文章，企图诋毁与被附属于商业公司指责我的狗。因此，为了记录在案，我不卖狗的商业狗食。我什么都不卖。
有一些互联网反对吐喂养讨论组 - 但是，他们不得不走“地下”，因为呕吐列出了成员将加入，使其不可能有一个不带参数和攻击的讨论。 Barfers人甚至就开始讨论列为“反吐”的群体构成，只来吸引更多的人谁是找资料，并攻击那些反对吐了谁讲这是荒谬的！

可悲的是，在留言板上的讨论呕吐许多生病的狗如何从原料肉/骨头。人们谁是新的喂养B.A.R.F.被告知，如带血腹泻症状，对原料骨头窒息，和其他健康问题是完全正常的，因为他们的狗是“清除”毒素。我收到从谁离开了这些名单，由于他们的狗成为重病或实际上从吐生肉饮食或其他许多人死亡的电子邮件。

作为宣传暴利高冠

生肉，因为我见过宠物商店出售的饲料制造商们没有兽医，并且没有一个科学/微生物学的背景，也没有在兽医实践经验。他们一直推销员，美容师，或干脆狗主。他们的信息似乎是完全没有问题的书面审查的方式在一个关键问题的生肉饮食那些书而得。此外，还有其他人的行为，作为营养顾问...铭记“营养专家”是一个没有所需的证明意义的标题。我不说这是侮辱任何人，但它是什么，消费者应该做到心中有数。
不幸的是，制造商和生肉饮食提供自制的减肥食谱书的作者立足于他们所承担的是“野狗饮食”概念的意见。他们似乎无视有关的野生狗，由于它的饮食，损伤和死亡的典型健康，野生和家养的狗直接关系到生肉和骨头消费的科学证明的事实和统计数字。

此外，生肉饮食或饮食目前这样一个可笑的事实不能忍受这样的索赔，因为这些，制造商许多作者：

（1）原料鸡和火鸡的骨头不会分裂（事实上，他们是最常见的骨杀狗）。

（2）巴氏杀菌产品贡献关节炎。

（3）混合气体的蛋白质引起食肉动物（狗是杂食动物，因为是人类）以及一个酸性条件下，可能导致疾病。

（4）葡萄柚籽提取物和/或水果糖将杀死生肉任何危险细菌。

（5）β-胡萝卜素和维生素A预防癌症。这些说法都没有被证明是真实的，也不是广为接受，甚至可能是真实的。

我很震惊，当由一个制造商与原料肉的诱惑/分销商，“你可以成为百万富翁卖这种东西”很少接触。这并不是说每个人鼓吹这股潮流已经成为他们的主要动机的钱，但可以肯定的，似乎规则，而不是例外。没有什么本质上与赚钱错，但它是错误的赚钱出售在我们的动物朋友牺牲危险的产品和理念毫无戒心的，善意的狗爱好者。

lidehua · 2010-11-13 16:04:15

生肉神话

题：鸡和火鸡的骨头软，完全消化。特别是婴儿背部和脖子。

真相：历史与现状的记录显示，这是完全不真实的。狗的数以千计的人死亡或受到严重伤害，多年来从进食生鸡的骨头。农场狗和土狼始终治疗骨头碎片，并在其胃或咽喉分裂后死亡活鸡，鸡和火鸡 - 是的，甚至婴儿禽。另一种方法痛苦小的鸡骨头伤害狗是他们会卡或投诉，或通过牙齿上腭。我收到的电子邮件经常由前barfers其受到损害或从被喂食生鸡肉和火鸡骨头打死狗。即使是博士Billinghurst，在他反驳我的网站，也承认有风险。在他最新的书，他有一个免责条款，原始骨头可能是危险的。废话！可惜他没有提到他的书里，他建议你给你的狗生的骨头！

假：骨头碎片不会在一个完整的胃。

完全不真实！很多时候，锯齿大块骨尽自己的喉咙损伤。狗对骨头死于窒息。而且，关于胃，骨头不通过尽快食物。消化的食物不保护从尖锐物体胃壁。狼吃毛皮，软骨和肌肉骨骼肉随着这有助于防止碎片伤害。我不建议你用这种方式喂你的狗骨头，但应该指出的是，你的狗没有对BARF饮食这一优势。点击这里阅读有关的“原始的骨骼伤害狗的证词。

假：烹调肉破坏了酶和简化了肉的品质。

真相：为狗肉的好处是不蛋白质的酶。其次，烹调肉类，使之更易消化的肉为原料，具有消化胶原蛋白。在野外，狗吃肉母亲从他们杀害和反刍小狗 - 服务简化肉。此外，生肉是非常高脂肪。成千上万的狗每年死于胰腺炎，有些是由这种疾病的残疾人被喂食后很短的时间生肉饮食。不仅是高脂肪的生肉，但胰腺做成能产生酶。

有太多的活酶补充可引起胰腺关闭。如果你的狗有胰腺炎和你没有意识到这一点 - 高生肉脂肪饮食可以杀死他们。

误区：冻结所有的寄生虫和细菌杀死。

真相：冷冻杀死一些但不是所有的寄生虫，不会杀死大多数细菌。在生肉最危险的寄生虫弓形虫病。它可以杀死你的狗。我知道两个地方的狗去世后，由这种寄生虫吃生肉最近案件。迈克尔林顿博士，兽医神经学家报告说，他从一个处理生肉饮食，在他的脑子变成蠕虫的寄生虫与成千上万的狗。核磁共振检查显示，狗的大脑就像瑞士奶酪看。这种寄生虫通常比细菌的危险。猫和人也容易受到这种寄生虫。孕妇被告知不要改变猫砂因为怀孕时弓形体病可影响婴儿。谁携带猫吃鸟类和啮齿类动物弓形虫病，而怀孕的，往往出生畸形的小猫。

假：葡萄柚籽提取物杀死所有危险细菌。

真相：这完全是联合国的科学和证实。此外，一些细菌兴旺在胃的酸性环境。葡萄柚籽提取物是刺激狗的肚子里，味道是苦的。

误区：通过添加骨粉或骨骼钙，磷平衡/钙比。

事实：磷/在狗的饮食钙的比例是最关键的一最有益于身体健康。它很难提供一个自制的饮食准确的平衡。这是一个没有受过教育，“业余”的想法加入骨粉，因为它包含两个磷和钙，否定了任何平衡。也有疯牛病在一些地点的威胁。你会过得更好给他们Tums板或青花菜服务。一个由喂食生肉所造成的障碍少;营养中学Hyperparahtyroidism（parathy腺）和肾功能衰竭由于肾脏不能清除体内的磷量高。失败的原因时，肾脏对磷的丰度，弥补身体对钙的颚骨抢劫平衡这些流通的血液水平。这也称为橡胶下巴。也有骨科疾病的人数。

假：嗜酸性和果糖也会杀死有害细菌。

真相：声音令人印象深刻？嗜酸是一个“友好”的细菌，在消化艾滋病。这不是一个杀菌剂。果糖=水果，低聚=少数或下降，糖类=糖。这些糖被添加到提供一个杆菌的食物来源。

假：巴氏杀菌导致关节炎。生肉饮食的决策者常常提出一个包含整个膳食计划，原料奶。

真理：在野狗（这是生肉论据）不吃奶制品。他们吃鸡蛋 - 鸡蛋是肉类不是乳制品。狗因为有一个非常低乳糖乳制品宽容。他们不产生乳糖酶后，从他们的母亲的乳汁断奶（其中消化乳糖）。

假：狗喝了哺乳期的奶山羊已被杀害。

真相：没有多少山羊生活在大的地区，野生狼事 - 除非狼是从一个农民偷窃。的事件数，其中野生狼会杀了一个女性，哺乳山羊，是如此之少，这是不是野生狗的饮食标准成分 - 也不应该是国内狗的。

假：狗是食肉动物

真相：狗是杂食动物。他们吃两个植被和肉，其中植被是更高的比例。家犬没有相同的牙齿，头骨形状狼做或数字。你可以说他们是肉食性的。猫是真正的食肉动物，但是，这并不意味着对他们生肉或安全。之间有美洲狮，狮子，老虎和你housecat非常明显的差异。

lidehua · 2010-11-13 16:05:09

证词

朱莉博士丘吉尔，兽医医药学院，明尼苏达大学：
我非常反对多生食饮食。许多狗能够做好的生食饮食。然而，他们有可能危及生命。任何食物，甚至有可能杀死一只动物是不值得的风险。骨骼，甚至可以生和地面的胃肠道穿孔。这可能导致腹膜炎，严重感染，需要紧急手术，许多狗，每年死于这种。至于牙齿健康，有没有支持过商业或生食熟食，保持牙齿健康的科学研究。兽医牙医建议每天刷牙和定期清洗最佳的牙齿健康。骨头，牙齿断裂，做领导的痛苦和潜在的牙根根管感染的要求和或拔牙。还有一个非常好的学习我的同事（将在明年公布）谁分析了几种不同的配方饲料为原料的食品的工作。他们都有营养缺乏，以及一些严重的细菌污染。你有没有兽医营养师评估你的食谱吗？这些饮食被污染的细菌。这也许不是有害于健康的狗......然而，狗不拿出一个说法，其中的将被罚款，哪些会生病的标签。即使狗不得到生病的细菌（如沙门氏菌或致病大肠杆菌 - 自升式在盒杀手细菌）就可以成为“慢性shedders”。这意味着他们是这在他们的粪便脱落菌携带者，并成为一个公共健康风险的人谁可能暴露。这可以是特别严重的，如果你的狗来过任何儿童，老人免疫抑制人（对化疗的人，艾滋病毒等）。

真诚的，
Ĵ丘吉尔

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从盖尔，威洛鲁恩西伯利亚，沃思，华盛顿

你好凯蒂
我从兽医病理报告昨天下午。基奈死亡的穿刺伤的结果。幽门阀（本月与胃和intes。）基本上被撕裂，就像一个“异物”被卡在那里。其他的东西看上去极不规范太 - 胰腺等，这是从一只鸡回来，我给了他。之一。因此，我将永远生活在悲伤以为我杀了我自己的狗。放在“一鸡死与生的多狗”栏用“抽搐”标记。我认为，兽医要分担一些责任。

我学到了很多...从这次经验而Billinghurst书就像是进入垃圾---如果我传授给任何人，它会与一个附加的故事好伤心太久。不幸的是，这一切都将带来基奈，谁应该还有那么他的生命所剩无几了，回到我身边。我也哭了桶的，正如你可能猜测。
注意：这是第一次原始骨，但基奈已经被吃生肉。我发现了问题的早期胰腺吃生肉结束对狗很多。此外，该俱乐部沙哑她属于总统刚刚失去了2岁母犬分娩时至8幼崽。她死于因溃疡的小狗...他们或通过类似的东西吸收的毒素。她一直在吐她的整个生活。尸检表明，她也有扩大的胰腺。

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玛莎库恩

凯蒂，我刚刚找到您的网站。我想用我全部的心，我发现了5个月前它。也许，只是也许，如果我有，最精彩的小狗我曾经有幸生活仍然活着，而不必死了，可怕的，要感谢我的愚蠢轻信。她去世后，五餐 - 五 - 论Kymythy舒尔茨的“终极”的饮食。嗯，当然是最终 - 在最后 - 对于林登饮食。我一直生活在噩梦至今。如果有什么我能做些什么来帮助你对这些警告疯狂的膳食危险的人，请让我知道。

从玛莎的信息，一个人考虑到呕吐的饮食，

我不知道我可以添加到我的电子邮件转发给你说。我杀了她喂生肉与骨头完成我的小公主，我的生命，一个九一年繁殖计划的高潮，爱。我读给你的狗骨，并认为这是非常糟糕，而不是在所有的令人信服的书面。不过，我一直听到从人们在网络上的原始有多好饮食，所以当我听说Kymythy舒尔茨将是相当密切的研讨会给予了，我就去了。我读她的书，有关它的一些思想，并决定尝试一下。我想如果它不工作了，我可以随时切换回kibbles她。从来没有人提醒我，我可能没有第二次机会。我在这里向您发出警告。你可能无法得到第二次机会。我不知道如果我做了一些错误的饮食，或者如果我可爱的女孩有一些隐藏（隐藏得很好）的健康问题，使她没有这样的饮食候选人---但即便如此，那真是奇怪，因为注意饮食狂热者声称它治愈一切，尤其是肠道的问题。嗯，这破坏了她的肠子最后六英尺的地步血泄漏出他们在她的腹部池。她死于失血，尽管上午01时前往急救医院的兽医。而这是在只有五对饮食天。她的母亲，谁吃了她做同样的事情，也有坏的腹泻，但她康复。感谢上帝。我想我会推动在一个真正的前半（而不是只考虑它），如果我已成功地杀了他们两个。

如果您认为您的狗的癫痫是造成或加剧了什么东西你喂养，为什么不尝试更好的质量粗磨，如伊诺，或健康，甚至可能在家里做饭 - 但是我的意思做饭，煮的肉和没有骨头。或者，如果你有决心以这种方式风险狗的生活，找到你身边的人谁一直这样做很长的时间谁您信任并检查他们的每一步。在丝毫迹象表明什么是错的，赶紧撤退。我不能告诉你我是如何“什么如果”折磨自己 - 不要把自己的情况，你可以做到这一点。这是没有乐趣。还有其他的整体疗法，你可以尝试了。我想，回头看它，我曾试图与我的老女孩谁开始seizuring替代疗法。也许顺势给你安排了答案。请大家更多的研究，而我说，如果你一定要争取这个可怕的危险的饮食，非常小心。
祝你好运。
- 玛莎光

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亲爱的凯蒂
我加入了一小会儿前k9health讨论清单。我这样做是因为我越来越关注常规疫苗接种的安全性我的狗，并在对有关疫苗接种的网络信息搜索此列表来我碰到我的旅行。我想我已经加入的人谁是认真的，并在推进卫生事业的兴趣犬讨论小组，但在我看来，我不得不之间，而不是一个心胸狭窄，卑鄙的狂热者组，一组下降其中孔比类似之处邪教更多。我不相信，呕吐是好还是安全的饮食。有时我给我的狗骨头，但除了我的疑虑生肉非常真实的我还没有发现，原始的骨头都普遍对我的狗好危险。我所看到的胰腺炎和结肠炎像钟表出现在一个狗每当他吃骨头;不用说，我停止给他这样做的原因骨髓的骨头。

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您好，我的名字是[清除隐私]我住在温哥华不列颠哥伦比亚省。我刚从一个整体在当地的宠物医生回家探望。大约一个月前，我妻子和我带来了我们18个月大的拳击手（泰勒）看到这个女人。我们被告知，泰勒应该在“生肉”饮食作为她的免疫系统是很低的。我信任我们的建议和立即开始新的饮食。一个月后，泰勒成了暴力与各地，腹泻和呕吐，荨麻疹病。她没有吃两天。这当然我们都害怕死亡。我们建立了一个与“巫医”的任命，并再次被告知只停留在原料肉。我们在任何时候被告知为什么泰勒变得如此恶心。充其量有人认为，她可能在某些肥料推出？本人质疑，然后被告知开始给作为钙源她生鸡翅膀？我再次质疑，因为我一直认为，在任何时候都不能给予狗是众所周知的骨头碎片。我得到的答案是“生鸡翅不会分裂，是非常安全的，以及极高的钙源”。在任何情况下，当我从我们上次访问我搜索整个互联网和你对生肉文章凸轮。好吧，把它简单地将我们的孩子就没有更多的生肉。我感到失望的是，我没有进一步的调查。我敢肯定，通过原始但将继续与新的，直到我看到一些人指出，从合格的事实，我的狗会吃煮熟的肉类，水果，蔬菜，谷物和大量的水争议。

lidehua · 2010-11-13 16:06:09

常见问题

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你有什么推荐喂养的狗吗？

一个生肉/骨饮食主张建立从一个巨大的飞跃，低质量的粗磨到原料，过一个更常见的意义的解决方案跳绳。一个煮熟的肉类自制饮食。任何初始结果，他们可能会看到是一个“缺席”的一个或多个成分的粗磨的结果 - 而不是“存在”的生肉。我相信这是一个生和粗磨之间的平衡。我非常的熟肉制品和谷物，蔬菜和水果做成的原料自制饮食的青睐，只要你有你的狗研究的目前的健康状况和繁殖的历史如果可能的话。我喂高品质的粗磨，大量新鲜的食物和草药补充。我推荐烤，不处理。我的狗享受新鲜的食物，我感觉好多了知道他们越来越双方选项（粗磨/新鲜）的好处。

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是否有商业kibbles有营养？

有很多历史悠久的制定数量，有机或狗食整体商业品牌。在“流行”宠物商店品牌许多包含危险防腐剂和非营养填料。我对商业粗磨主要关注的是生产和包装过程。有些已经知道在他们的粮食有毒的模具。我不相信处理食物的狗做healthfully。有两个在这个问题上一定要读的书 - “食品宠物死”的安马丁，谁率先揭露商业粗磨行业的努力。而且，她的第二本书，“保护你的宠物...更令人震惊的事实！”安妮是个备受好评的研究者谁做了一个诚实，明确和非偏她写作的令人印象深刻的调查！
我听说过一些看似安全，但没有亲自尝试了，我的狗，它们的整体品牌。甚至声称有品牌，如苹果，胡萝卜，草莓健康的成分，以及各种草药不是什么样的水果或蔬菜，他们使用的是（苹果或苹果“核心”？），或它的新鲜度部分清楚。似乎有低数量，使得整体利益问题尤其是在新鲜的食品配料...分为粗磨加工。如果你希望你的狗有一个“苹果”效益 - 给它一个苹果！
我感到非常鼓舞的是，健康意识的商业犬粗磨行业正在采取的趋势。然而，随着这一趋势随着产品的冲击而来的，尚未被安全研究。对于每一个低品质的商业粗磨产品，大约有5个综合时尚产品，更昂贵，潜在的危险。

在“流行”宠物商店品牌许多包含危险防腐剂和非营养填料。我对商业粗磨主要关注的是生产和包装过程。甚至声称有品牌，如苹果，浆果健康的成分，以及各种草药也已经知道在他们的粮食有毒的模具。如果你希望你的狗有一个“苹果”效益 - 给它一个苹果！

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这是真的，兽医知道什么营养？

想想吧。兽医，像任何其他行业，为培训成为他们想要成为的人。这是荒谬的世界上每一个法官授权审核，并承担他们知道什么营养。他们中的许多承担在该地区的个人利益。有趣的是，人们知道谁兽医营养声称什么是以下*博士* Billinghurst就像一本圣经的书 - 他是一个职业教育（虽然对98％的兽医更好地在美国审判案）。我还没有达到一吐主张对营养或有任何有效证件，以支持论点直立这一信念。唯一的最有阅读的书籍或参加研讨会的具体营养（这些讨论会的主持人不少是uncredentialed），突然，他们知道的比有执照的兽医更多呢？我不同意这个观点。

有一整个8年的学校教育提供的大量信息是相关的营养。加州大学戴维斯分校（加州大学戴维斯分校），第二个全球最大的兽医大学有一个持牌兽医营养课程。

持牌兽医知道生肉的细菌和寄生虫有可能是有害的 - 我们已经知道了几百年了。他们知道，在生肉磷高，而呕吐的饮食是极钙/磷不平衡。他们知道，狗是乳糖不耐症，不应该得到的大量乳制品的Billinghurst和皮特凯恩建议。他们知道，高脂肪会导致许多狗死于胰腺炎。而且，他们知道，从历史和现在的记录，未加工的骨头尽杀犬，造成极大的伤害到了自己的牙齿，牙龈，下颌，喉咙和胃。这是一个生活简单的事实。它也是经常到野狗。换句话说 - 甚至是谁没有采取兽医营养个人利益，至少会知道简单的生物事实，生肉和骨头是有害的。

唐纳德Strombeck，数字电压表，博士有一个美好的书拿出来，“猫与狗首页编制饮食，健身替代的”。他提供超过200个自制的饮食，以及如何制定一个自制的减肥食谱会谈。他还非常反对生肉/骨饮食了。

没有一个在美国兽医大学，呕吐与饮食同意。难道他们都错了？请记住，他们是已发现的癌症治疗机构所有，艾滋病毒，动物甲状腺疾病。这不是由宠物食品公司资助的一个阴谋。这些兽医大学是唯一的原因，我们甚至可以诊断疾病 - 生肉是一个非常简单的证明，微生物学101的问题。它有细菌和寄生虫。这使得野生和家养的狗生病了。即使Billinghurst偶尔承认，确实有生肉的细菌和寄生虫，它可以使国内的狗是狼或生病。

这并不是说他们有一个“狭隘的观点” - 他们在兽医学校任教，是如何诊断和治疗疾病。我不想一个营养师来治疗我的狗比我更希望做一个美甲师对我手术。韦茨知道是什么原因导致的疾病和疾病有关，这意味着他们比你或我，或“营养师”更深层次的营养知道。

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那成千上万的狗谁住在吐健康呢？

这显然是一个神话。如果您访问Internet上的任何呕吐或生肉列表，你会发现呕吐有关职位生病的狗，比没有。他们选择只归咎于什么，但他们的吃生肉的狗的弹丸，出血性腹泻。最初看到的结果，他们几乎总是与不提及副作用* *混合。

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你如何过渡到从吐狗自制或粗磨的饮食吗？

兽医的意见，我知道给是采取关闭生肉狗立即。这不是一种上瘾的物质，你将有撤出.....它决定你喜欢喝防冻液不会再的。你越早停止 - 立即 - 越好。引进的细菌少，越好！我的rehabbing关闭BARF饮食许多狗的个人经验是：1）获得粪便样本，看看是否需要药物治疗。我不喜欢抗生素，但是我喜欢在我的狗肠道寄生虫和细菌少了很多！ 2）即时切换至熟牛肉或羊肉（不是鸡），结合白米第3天 - 大量的水比其他什么都没有。这仅仅是解决了肚子。然后代替牛肉和熟鸡蛋加入高品质的粗磨。根据狗的年龄，品种，和健康状况我结合新鲜蔬菜和水果。

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我怎样知道我的狗的症状已经从生肉或粗磨是什么？

有一个可笑的谣言整个互联网，当你的狗会从生肉生病，那是因为他们是“清除”的商业食品中的毒素的蔓延。这是完全不合逻辑的和毫无根据的。什么毒素？而且，如果有毒素，目前他们不会在弹丸，出血性腹泻，胰腺炎，肾功能衰竭，肠寄生虫感染或吃生肉会导致其他疾病的狗的表现。

据我调查的兽医，有数百人曾fecals做，才发现自己的狗的粪便细菌和寄生虫。这显然不是清除毒素的情况。而且，怎么样的狗死于胰腺炎由于高脂肪含量的生肉（或接近死）高比例？这将表明他们是更好的粗磨或精心制定家庭熟饭了。对于记录 - 癌症和其他慢性疾病的终端或不治愈了生肉及生肉中的细菌存在。显然，没有食物杀死癌细胞。食物可以帮助我们的整体健康和预防疾病 - 这一点，我们肯定知道。

最有说服力的证据是不以专业研究，但历史和狗死亡数千本记录或正在从原料肉和骨头受伤。而且，它不仅是“原始”的因素，但它是完全不平衡的事实。这也是为什么没有人做的，为什么人类不应该吃生肉的研究 - 我们过去的一点是它的质疑。当我采访兽医和兽医大学，他们说，没有一个研究的需要，因为它是一个基本的生物原料肉的事实，寄生虫和细菌。这也是在兽医行业前商业粗磨狗，往往更多的生肉骨喂养的肉类原料或截断，并有多人死亡，因它而缩短寿命众所周知的事实。还有一个原因大家切换到粗磨时是可用的。我不是主张商业粗磨 - 我就是不相信，亿万人民在十年后，所有切换到粗磨，因为他们懒惰或对他们的狗的健康很少考虑。野狗，包括郊狼和农村地区已知有严重的牙科问题狼，以及肾脏，肝脏和胰腺，从他们的饮食问题。野狗通常营养不良。

lidehua · 2010-11-13 16:06:59

原料肉的有效研究

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我劝你退后一步，然后再更改，并采取动物的饮食中一个重要的事实看，调查的一切你读的东西，包括我写的。任何人都可以写一本书或一篇文章。要求零售商向您展示记录了对生肉所谓的健康益处的索赔证明。或致电兽医大学，让他们提供科学的事实和案例研究你。

Barfers指责狗商业销售我们的狗只是为了赚点钱不合适的产品的食品公司。市场上的整体产品更加昂贵，大多数人并没有对/中使用动物测试。博士Billinghurst充电研讨会，并为他的书籍把大量资金。一个特别的生肉产品中发现其实是在宠物商店使用大型猫科动物在动物园（美洲豹或狮子）拟副产品。我要提到他们的名字，但他们威胁要告我，如果我接触他们。没有任何阴谋。有很好的食品生产商和有那些谁是物有所值了。我发现在吐业务比商业粗磨腐败的人多得多。

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BARF饮食信息

纽曼博士丽莎丽莎纽曼博士是一个自然疗法医生谁也拥有博士学位在整体营养。她是国际自然宠物用品协会会长和天然宠物护理八著作。

迈克理查兹，数字电压表博士迈克地址经常询问生肉饮食问题，并解释了危险和生肉喂养和骨骼的误解。

威廉D库西克的“动物代言人”网站的作者。威廉提供了一个对我们的狗和狼的祖先迷人的信息，大约一生肉/骨饮食的危险以及事实。

兽医医学博士朱莉丘吉尔学院，美国明尼苏达大学

JAVMA美国兽医医学会杂志的研究

ProVet医疗信息对所有肉类饮食的文章。我们知道，一对猫，狗，营养要求非常多，每年还看到，有兽医断了腿，甚至破碎刺宠物，仅仅是因为他们一直在一个专门的口粮喂肉

贝尔菲尔德博士的文章的在线文章关于喂食生肉和骨头的危险。

自然生活杂志宠物护理专家告诫不要对狗生食饮食

宠物中心狼和骨骼

史蒂夫起重机的文章是“谬误比较家犬，野生狼。”高档的书面和提供科学信息，而你需要知道研究犬的营养。

琳达阿恩特一个营养顾问提供原料肉和骨饮食中肯的意见。

PetDiets.com一个网站的宠物营养总理

赛狗赛狗和生肉营养

宠物食品及制造信息图表

PFMA宠物食品制造商协会。英国。

欧洲欧洲宠物食品宠物食品工业

大学。伊利诺伊研究主场迎战由相关产品，原料提炼生物利用度

华盛顿州立大学兽医为宠物主人医学解剖学，华盛顿州

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宠物营养书籍

安马丁安妮是个备受好评的研究员率先揭露谁与她的第一本商业粗磨行业的努力，'粮食宠物死'。她的第二本书，'保护你的宠物...更令人震惊的事实！包括一对呕吐等生肉/骨头饮食的危险篇章。她做了一个诚实，明确和非偏她写作的令人印象深刻的调查！
博士与Donald R. Strombeck“家狗与猫的饮食准备，一个健康的另类”的作者。唐纳德Strombeck，数字电压表，博士提供超过200个自制的配方和谈论他为什么强烈反对生肉和骨饮食。

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我从以下来源获得的事实和统计数字：

罗伯特Vansaun，数字电压表，博士*
教授，美国俄勒冈州立大学
马格鲁德厅105
兽医学院
科瓦利斯或97331
541-737-7667（手机）
541-737-0502（传真）
*其他名称;
主席美国科学院兽医营养
外交官和ACT（美国大学的Theriogenolists）
外交官，美国兽医营养学院

吉姆林肯，数字电压表
兽医教学医院主任
华盛顿州立大学
兽医临床科学
邮政信箱646610

普尔曼，华盛顿99164-6610
509-335-0711

朱莉丘吉尔，数字电压表

临床专家，营养
兽医医药学院
明尼苏达大学
1365 Gortner阿夫
明尼苏达州圣保罗55108
612-625-9758
612-624-0751

詹妮弗瓦特谢尔登
野生犬，犬科的Nondomestic自然史
学术出版公司，1992

安马丁
宠物食品模具
保护您的宠物更令人震惊的事实...
电子邮件; anmartin1@rogers.com

NewSage出版公司

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旧金山动物园 - 415-753-7080

林地公园动物园（西雅图，华盛顿州） - 206-684-4800

华盛顿国家兽医协会 - 425-454-8381

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